7-Turnkey Roof Consulting Inc. Proposal-PALM BCH. SHORE APTS. DRAINAGE QUOTE.pdf

5-Infinity Roofing Bid-Palm Beach Shores Apartments.pdf

September 13, 2016
Atlantic and Caribbean Roofing Consulting, LLC
Palm Beach Shores Apartments
33 S. Ocean Ave.
Palm Beach Shores, FL 33404
Re: Palm Beach Shores Apartments
       Roof Specification Review
As you are aware, ACRC recently performed Moisture scans and drainage calculations in accordance with the Florida Building Codes requirements for your facility. Based on our site investigation and in preparation of the reports for the tests outlined, we are very familiar with the site specific conditions of your building and more so your roof system.
ACRC is in receipt of your roof preplacement specifications prepared by Commercial Innovations and offers the following comments:
Coal Tar built-up roofing provides one of the most durable roofing system known due to its inherent waterproofing and weathering characteristics. Coal tar roof systems are the time-proven roofing systems for level and low sloped roofs. Coal tar has natural resistance to water, air and water vapor penetration. A tight molecular structure enables coal tar to resist water penetration oxidation of the roof surface as well as surface resistance to many of the common chemicals found in today’s environment.
Coal tar roofing is the only self -healing roofing system available. Cracking, common to most roofing materials eventually allow damage to the roof system. Coal tar has a property known as “cold flow” which acts to correct or lessen these conditions periodically. Because of the low softening point of the Coal tar pitch, cracks and holes are self-sealed when the roof temperatures increases. Coal tar pitch roof systems has been identified as the best roofing system in the market place dating back from the dawn of waterproofing.
ACRC concurs with the recommendation of a Coal tar pitch roof system for your building. While the cost may be slightly higher than other systems, Coal tar is by far the best long term solution and provides the most valuable return on investment. With proper routine maintenance, a Coal tar roof system will provide well in excess of thirty years (30) of serviceable life. Please note, no other roof system will provide such a lengthy serviceable life.
​     The level of importance and value are as follows:
1. Coal tar pitch – 30 plus years serviceable life. ACRC has evaluated 35-40 year old Coal tar pitch roofs.
2. Modified bitumen – 15 years – if sloped and maintained timely.
3. Single ply (TPO) -  10 years – if sloped and maintained timely.
 In conclusion, we strongly agree with the recommendation of a Coal tar pitch roof system for your facility.
If you should have any questions, please do not hesitate to call me directly.
Sincerely,
Shirad Ali, BSc. Eng., RRO, RCI
Roofing, Testing & Codes Consultant


09/02/2016

Pat,

Go to web site:  Fibertite Roofing Ask.com------Fibertite roofings systems by Seaman Corp.  


General guide specifications for the installation of fibertite roofing systems with Rhinobond.
Under Precautions:  Adverse weather conditions, extreme temperature, high winds, high humidity, and moisture could have a detrimental effect on adhesives on the quality of finished installations.. 
The product is not suitable for tectrum overlay.  Only good over concrete, wood and steel.  
This should knock Empire Roofing right out of the box.    After you read print out and advise.  

Thanks,

​Steve Pepe


  I forgot to mention that the  Coal Tar roof is the Cadillac of roofs and that it is the best money can buy. FYI in 1957 the building was built with a tar and gravel roof that lasted almost 40 years. The product has since improved. Also we have John Tarr  from Coal Tar manufacturing company to oversee the job to make sure that the installation is done correctly, at no additional cost to the owners. They are the ones that will give us the 20 year guarantee on the roof. This is huge.

 Thank You

Steve Pepe


On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 12:11 PM, James Greifendorf wrote:

Friday September 9 2016

Mr. Steve Pepe, ROOF COMMITTEE  33 OCEAN AVENUE PBS FL

Dear Mr. Pepe
I am the son of Mrs. Evelyn Kistler-Greifendorf and received a copy of your email letter addressing concerns of the roof at 33 Ocean Ave. You made reference to SPECS OF JOHN TAR FROM COLD TARR & CO.
I have been a registered architect since 1972 and have designed many flat roofs for commercial and residential projects.  
Further, I have followed the construction and approved the requisition for payment of many roofing contractors. Over these 44 years of monitoring building construction practices, I have seen no less than 4 legitimate roofing systems.  I am familiar with all roofing systems and the structures that support them.
Also, I have my own copy, bought from the Town Hall of the original building documents that show every reinforcing bar in the concrete frame which was built in the 1960's. I would appreciate very much if you would forward myself the SPECS you refer to so that I could see what the various bidders were estimating
on.  Would you please send  me a copy? I have personally been on the roof at 33 Ocean Avenue and was there when the last hurricane did substantial damage. I will be driving with my mother down to 33 Ocean Avenue leaving her home in Lakeside MI and arriving at the building sometime on Monday September 24. I will be there the entire week and would love to meet with you to discuss the roofing work proposed and the high cost of doing that work.
Thank You,
Sincerely,
James A Greifendorf, Registered architect
J A GREIFENDORF ARCHITECTS  Newport RI
6 Boughton Rd., Newport RI 02840
t.    401.662.9972
e.   jgreifendorf8@gmail.com

Date: 09/09/16 08:54:18 PM
​Hi James,
It will be my pleasure to send you whatever you need. It is really great that you show an interest as you are one of the very few. I will gather all the information and try to forward it to you over the weekend. I will not be in Florida that early , however i can communicate with you by phone or e-mails. Thank you again for taking an interest and offering your services.
Steve Pepe

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 05:18 PM, James Greifendorf wrote:
Saturday September 10, 2016
Re:  ROOF REPLACEMENT  33 Ocean Ave. PBS FL
Steve,
Thank you for forwarding the 30 page specifications including roof plan of the building.
As I said in my last email, I have a full set of the original construction permit plans for
the building showing the entire structural system including every rebar in place.
I was able to purchase a set from the Town Hall. They have the original set in their
file storage room.
My quick observation/comments after a quick review of the Specifications -
1     I am still very surprised that someone (???) is proposing a Tar & Gravel roofversus a Modified Bitumen roof.
2     When I first heard about the Re-Roofing back in the Summer, I made note at that time.
3     Also, at that time, I heard that the bids were in the $300,000 range and that was very surprising.
4     Now that I have gone through the 30 page Specifications, I understand why I had no idea that the Re-Roofing included not only redoing every detail of the original roof; but the actual Structural components of the Upper roof including the Tectum. I have worked with Tectum many years ago. The extent and quantity of every detail from Structure, Substrate, Insulation, Roofing, Flashing, Stucco, ALL metal Copings, Scuppers and Trim....You are building a New building.
5     I understand the high cost of all construction trades and Divisions because of the increase of government regulations including Testing, Engineering and a Multitude of requirements that never existed even 15 years ago much less 50 plus years ago when this building was built. (the first High Rise on Singer Island)
6     As I understand it, only one area of the existing roof has been leaking causing damage to the 6th floor penthouse apartments.
7     It is only right to repair and replace that roof immediately.  My question is why are you replacing ALL the roofs everywhere?  They ALL can't be leaking everywhere? It seems more cost effective to do the problem roof first and do the multitude of other  roofs over the next 5 years +/-?
8     I am use to using $/Square Foot estimates when first starting out doing a feasibility
       for work proposed.  If I was to measure/survey the Total Square Footage of ALL the
       roofs you have in the building and apply a Standard Cost/Square Foot for 2016,
       I would NOT come near the $300,000 estimates you are receiving.
9     I have discussed this Re-roofing with several Roofing contractors in the West Palm
       Beach area.  Their first estimates without seeing the building were very much lower.
       I understand that the Roofing contractor must see the building conditions; but the
       $300,000 was WAY over any NORMAL Re-roofing cost.
10   I cannot see how it would be possible to accomplish this Huge quantity of Roof work
       in the next few months....even if you had already awarded this contract.  It seems
       to me that you must wait until after the 2017 season?
I did not realize that this Roof project was being proposed and the extent of engineering
had already been done and Bids received.
Do the Bids allow for Phasing of the Work over a 5 year period?
If I could see the Bids by the various contractors, I might have a better idea what they
are proposing.
In summary, my two main issues are (1) Why Tar & Gravel  (2) Why a Complete 100%
Re-roofing when there is only one roof area leaking on the 6th floor.
This building is almost 60 years old and it is obvious in that period of time, maintenance
is required on ALL finish materials.  The Building Codes have changed drastically in that
amount of time.  This building was NOT designed structurally to withstand the Current
Huricane Wind Speeds and Storm Surges.  I have seen the reinforcing bar schedules and
a Modern 2016 building would require a lot more steel reinforcing.
Along with ADA Handicap Accessibility and Energy Codes; keeping up with ALL these
issues is a daunting task.
My mother, Evelyn Kistler, and I will be arriving on Monday September 26.  I will be at the
building all week before I leave on Sunday October 2.  I hope to look at the existing roof
condition while I am there and perhaps discuss the Re-roofing with one or more of your
Bidders.
Respectfully,
James A Greifendorf, architect
J A GREIFENDORF ARCHITECTS  Newport RI
tel.       401.662.9972
email    jgreifendorf8@gmail.com

Date: 09/10/16 06:15:11 PM
Hi James,
As you know tar and gravel is the best money can buy. It is the Cadillac of roofs, and is ideal for the coastal area, for hurricanes etc. I am sending you the moisture survey that was done, also the scupper survey.  All the roofs are holding water at this time. by waiting it can only cause structural damage to the concrete decks. Then the costs would be even higher.  The six floor deck has tectum, which has already failed structurally and is sagging between the steel trusess The bids include a new steel deck, which is the only way to solve the problem. Look over the moisture survey and engineer scupper survey and advise. We should probably talk on the phone.
Thanks 
Steve Pepe

Date: 09/10/16 07:17:12 PM
I had Rich Bolton put the Moisture survey, and engineering scupper report on the web site. You can view it there. Both reports are needed for permitting. As per report all roofs are holding water now. The longer we wait to do these roofs the more money it will cost us. A prior board made many bad decisions  when they had the roofs sealed and scuppers closed  with out doing a moisture test. By doing this they sealed the water in, and the roof can not breath. the roofs are now starting to gas, causing large areas to bubble. There is no guestion in my mine after doing construction for 40 years that the roofs must be done sooner than later. The bids are consistant and reasonable for a tar and gravel roof. 

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 06:39 AM, James Greifendorf wrote:

Sunday September 11
Steve,
Thanks for all the info....
I can't believe the 6th floor roof structure was allowed to get that
damaged....Amazing!
Also, I can't believe the Scuppers were closed up....Unheard of!
Who would do such a thing and why?
As I said in earlier emails, I will get up on the roof the week I am
at the building Monday September 26 to Sunday October 2 (7 days)
I will do a visual inspection myself of all the roof areas as they might
be accessible.
Is the New building management team involved in any of this roof
matter?
Jim Greifendorf

Date: 09/11/16 09:06:13 AM

James,
Just to bring you a little more up to speed.  1--- You can get the roof key from Jen who is in the office M_W_F  9am to 12noon.  2--- Moisture and scupper surveys are required by the state of Florida.  3--- Entire roof replacement is now necessary, NO OTHER  OPTIONS. We must start the job ASAP in order to avoid further damage to the structure.  4--- Take note to the six floor roof. Water ponds 2 inches when it rains and stays there for days until the sun dry's it.  If the roof is dry ,walk on and push down with your feet in the low areas, and water will come up under your feet. The roof is no longer pitched to the roof drains.  5---- John tarr the manufacture will make periodic inspections to the roof to see that the installation is done correctly, as well as myself. and note at no additional cost to us. It would be great if you would volunteer as well. If the management company gets involved it can cost us another 25 or 30 thousand dollars. I am against that.  The repairs in the past have all been done incorrectly. Lets do it once and do it right. We threw away almost 300,000 dollars since 2004. This is why I got involved.
Steve

Date: 09/11/16 09:25:54 AM

James,
Forgot to mention, There are presently no warrantees on any of the roofs, and insurance will not cover unless the roof came off in a hurricane. If the insurance company new the true about the condition of the roof they would drop our coverage. Sorry to say we have no options. I have been working on this project with Pat fo over six months. The management company has preposed a fibertite roof costing more money and it is a cheaper job that I am totally against. It is a single layer PVC roof that is glued down. In the manufactures own specs the glue is moisture and humidity sensitive. WHY WOULD USE THIS TYPE OF ROOF IN A OCEAN ENVIRONMENT?  There are not many companies that do Tar and gravel because it is labor intense, however in my opinion, it is the best you can buy. 
Steve
09/07/2016
Hello Fellow Owners,
I am writing this letter to try to clarify what is going on in regards to the roof project at 33 Ocean Ave PBS.  I have been working on this roof project now for 6 months with Al Bressemer, Pat Dameron, Al Jensen and Rich Bolton, who has been posting everything on the web site, www.PBSAPT.com.  We are doing this to keep some sort of transparently to the owners. In the past the Board has made choices and decisions and the owners have been left out of the process. Matt McNerney, President of the Board is trying to continue the same practice, and this is why he is ignoring our recommendations made to the BOD Roof Committee. These board members have a limited knowledge of construction. I have 40 years in the construction field, Bessemer is a life long roofer and Frank Viggiani, APT 202, whom we welcome, is a engineer who just came on board to help with the project. 
   Let there be no doubt in anyones mind that the building at 33 Ocean needs a roof.  There will be a special assessment to pay for the replacement of this roof. We have completed all our work on the project. McNerney and some other board members are choosing to do nothing at this time under the guise that more research is still needed. The only reason to delay and put off the necessary repair is that someone is hoping to sell their place before they have to pay the assessment. Some board members are pushing First Services, our Management Company and their roofing company to do the job. This is the wrong roof for the building. It will not hold up in a coastal environment as is evident in the product information sheet. FYI since 2008, we have put 135,000 dollars into a roof that is no longer viable.  It is holding water and moisture which we confirmed with a roof survey.  Anyone with any questions should contact Pat Dameron or myself, at (516) 578-2369 email: Pepco71@optimum.net.  I will send anyone any documentation that they request. All proposals and surveys are posted on www.PBSAPT.com.
Sincerely,
 A very concerned owner,
Thank You, 
Steve Pepe

I forgot to mention that the  Coal Tar roof is the Cadillac of roofs and that it is the best money can buy. FYI in 1957 the building was built with a tar and gravel roof that lasted almost 40 years. The product has since improved. Also we have John Tarr  from Coal Tar manufacturing company to oversee the job to make sure that the installation is done correctly, at no additional cost to the owners. They are the ones that will give us the 20 year guarantee on the roof. This is huge. 
 Thank You 
Steve Pepe

Sept. 1, 2016
Owners at PBSAPT                                                                                                                     
The September BOD meeting was called to order and closed for business in about 33 minutes.  The roof replacement was the main topic of discussion and went as projected.  First off, only 12 owners participated, (four being BOD members, leaving a whooping 8 concerned owners).  We have all been put on notice that the roof at 33 South Ocean has failed.  FYI that means the roof is holding water and not draining properly.  In some areas the water is getting into the building as is seen on the 6th floor area by the elevators.  It is also penetrating the concrete structure.  You may have also seen evidence on your patios of cracked concrete.  This is caused by water being absorbed by the porous concrete and causing the rebar in the concrete to rust and eventually crack from the change in temperature creating these cracks on the balconies. 

 There are BOD members that are trying to sell their units and will not OK the costly repairs that are needed at this time.  The window has now closed to start repairs as we are now in hurricane season and entering the Snow Bird return season. By dragging their feet they gained another six months to sell with no assessment payment.  The BOD set up a Roof Committee that recommended after 6 months of research the job should begin, only to be told, not now we will table that decision for now.

 Pres. Matt McNerney cut off Joe Adamson from First Services, our management company, from answering a question from an owner, on what he will charge to oversee the roof replacement job.  Why the secrecy?  Why do we as owners not know that answer?  BOD member of the Roof Committee, Pat Dameron, has already worked out a deal with the manufacturer of the roof material to supervise the job at no cost to us.  The manufacturer is guaranteeing the roof for 20 years and will make sure it is installed properly.  What more does First Service have to offer that Cold Tarr the manufacturer can’t do already?   We will be involved with Cold Tarr for twenty years while First Service is new to us and has not even been hired full time.  Common sense is a victim once again at 33 South Ocean.

 We have owners with expertise in construction and roofing, yet time and again their advice is ignored.

 The fact that only 8 owners called in, shows how little, we owners, really care about the building and the money being spent to maintain this beautiful building.  If you continue to let this board president put off decisions until he sells his unit, you have no one to blame but yourselves.  McNerney should step down and be replaced by an owner that has our best interest in place.  That goes for any BOD member that places their own interests ahead of the interests for the good of our building and community.   I wish more people would speak up. 

 ** Safe driving or flying when you return to Palm Beach Shores Apartments.

 Visit www.pbsapt.com and please comment on this letter or anything that needs to be addressed.  I do not post names on comments unless you Ok it.  It is important to be transparent with respect to our building and its concerns.
COMMENT 09/01/16
Hello, my name is Steve Pepe.  For people that do not know me, I have been visiting Palm Beach Shores since1984 and finally bought in Palm Beach Shore Apartments in 2004.  I have a background of 40 years in the construction industry.  I was appointed by Pat Dameron to be on the roof committee.  I welcome all e-mails from any owner in the building that would like to know the condition of the roof and the research and estimates we worked six months in gathering for 33 Ocean Ave. 


I am very tired of people on the board that are there for their own personal gain. I love the building, the location and most of the people in the building. Please do not hesitate to e-mail me. It might take a little time for me to get back to you because I am presently involved in several construction projects but I will answer every e-mail, or address it with a phone call if you give me your phone number. We must have transparency in order to make our building whole again.


Steve Pepe


(516) 578-2369


pepco71@optimum.net 


owner 604





COMMENT 09/01/2016

​I am so sorry there is so much dissention in our building!!  Please know I am just not a ‘sweet little old lady’....I have opinions and prejudices like many of you!!  I was not on the listening end of that last meeting for the same reason as many others!  I happen to be in a meeting here in Va.!  .....and also as far as others not tuning in ......many of our members are not able to tune in!!!....Like my friend Pat Bishop who lives in an area where she has little connection!!    As far as Matt McNerney...I hold him in the highest regard!  I feel he is there for us!  If he wants to sell...so be it......................PERSONALLY I am not happy with the ‘OMG the sky is FALLING  EMAILS’...... that are sent out by  owners!!!  I DO Want to know the opinion of others and I do value  PePe and other’s opinions!  But PLEASE can we not ALL work together...in a civilized way???  Marlene Jordan! [Please print my name as I feel it is important that we let ourselves be known!





COMMENT 09/01/2016​
After reading this I am ashamed that I have not called in and given my "2 cents". 
I have been reading about the roof repairs and Mr. Pepe sounds very knowledgable in roof repair and I assumed it was obvious we would go with a plan Mr. Pepe thought was sound and fair.  I thought it sounded urgent to EVERYONE that we need the roof repaired ASAP.  I am also surprised that people selling their units wouldn't want to have the roof fixed before selling - it only makes the place more valuable and desirable - right?  
What's going on ? Let's fix the roof ASAP. 


(name withheld by me)





​COMMENT 09/01/2016
Sorry I missed calling in to today's board meeting.  
Based on the input of the experts on our roofing committee I assumed the need to make the necessary roof repairs ASAP was a forgone conclusion and the only issue was going to be which contractor to use.  I'd sure like to know how the board justifies putting off this investment, when it seems clear delaying will only cost we committed owners more in the long run.
(name withheld by me)





​COMMENT 09/03/2016


PBSA Owners
I recently received 2 emails from a gentleman by the name of Steve Pepe, who is on the roof committee. I did not understand why he felt the roof has failed needed to be replaced immediately, so I called a couple of our board members so they could fill me in. I got some good information.

My name is Frank Viggiani and I am the new owner of 202. I have been a board member and past president of the condo I also own in New York for five years. I am also a retired engineering assistant from Eastman Kodak Co. I have a lot of condo and business project management experience. Since this roof project that Mr. Pepe is requesting for requires a large special assessment, I have to investigate and ask a few questions.

I found that the information that Mr. Pepe put out is insufficient for me to take up an opinion of immediate roof replacement. There is no information in his report on age and material of our current roofs. There is no information on roofing materials he proposes to put on. Rubber roofs have been out for over 30 years and there is no mention of this. Also, I did not see contractor vetting process. A project of this size takes time to fully research your options and contractors. I believe the board is acting in a prudent and responsible manor on this project.

Mr. Pepe did bring up a valid point on some scuppers being blocked off and stressing the roof drains during a heavy storm. Apparently, the lack of open scuppers is the most likely case of roof failure. Plus the few that are open, are about 4 or 5 inches above the flat roof! This can not be possible by the original roof design.
[scuppers]

The whole idea of a scupper is to drain off the water in a storm. Looks like someone re-engineered the roof years ago. Here is what happened today on this same section of roof:
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You can see the ponding of water as the roof drains can not handle the volume of water. Wind is a factor that roof drains can not handle. With no scuppers, the wind can’t blow the water off the roof. Our roofs turn into mini wading pools. Now look at the back of the 5th floor:
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Not one open scupper on this roof. It use to drain to the walkway, see photo below:
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Here is what it looked like during todays storm:
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Bottom line here, roof replacement with scuppers 4-5 inches above the roof would be a big waste of money. We need to find out why the current roof is lower than the scuppers. I can not inspect the 6th floor roof, as I don’t have a key. From my understanding, that roof was replaced a few years ago and also needs to be replaced again. What is going on with that roof? Any warrantee?

The good news is that we have a property management company and a site manager. My NY condo has been using the same property management company for over 20 years. I love this company. They keep all our project records on file. When ever I need something fixed, they are on it. Also they have good vendors and contractors they hire for us. We get great work and service. Board members come and go, along with records sometimes. Property management companies stay around along with your records. I think over time, you all will love having a property manager too.

My feeling is to give the Board of Directors plenty of time to fully investigate this roofing situation. It is not an emergency situation and if we do get a new roof, I would like to see one that lasts 20 years so we don’t have to go through this again.

 Frank Viggiani
561-402-0976


(Editors note: Mr Viggiani is NOT an engineer and his credentials are suspect at best)

​COMMENT 09/03/2016​

Thank you Frank for your input!
We would fully support replacing the roof if it is necessary. You have brought up very interesting points. Is there any way you can contact Steve directly to get answers to your questions and possibly the two of you work together on this project?
Thank you and Steve for taking your time to investigate this situation!
It is comforting to have people who know what they are doing in charge of this big investment!
​(name withheld by me)​

​COMMENT 09/03/2016​

 I would like to listen in on BOD meetings, however the meetings are always held on a day and time that make it impossible for me.
     After the report that showed what poor condition the roof was in, I assumed it was a given that it would be repaired sooner rather than later. I thought the only issue was to decide which contractor would be hired for the job. I really don't understand how the board can ignore repairing a roof that clearly has failed!
      Now that the BOD and the new management company are fully aware of how bad the roof is, are they not responsible for any damage that happens to our apartments from a roof failure? I believe that if you are aware of a problem, and fail to take proper action to correct the problem, that it is considered negligence.
     As for owners currently trying to sell their apartments, good luck when any potential buyers find out about the poor condition of the roof. Any potential buyers would be wise to run away from our building.
(name withheld by me)


October 5, 2016
Ms. Pat Dameron
Palm Beach Shores Apartments
33 N Ocean Drive
Palm Beach Shores, FL 33404

Re: Palm Beach Shores Apartments – Proposed Coal Tar Pitch Gravel Roof
Dear Ms. Dameron,

Gravel Roof System have been part of the Built-Up roofing industry from the inception of low slope roofing construction. Gravel Built-Up roof systems has also proved over time, to be one of the most successful waterproofing roof system installed on low slope roofing. The gravel acts as a ballast system allowing the roof system to achieve high wind uplift properties, enhanced fire ratings, enhanced surface wear, reflectivity, protection of the underlying felts from the elements of the weather and prevent Ultra Violet degradation. As a result, gravel roofs are considered excellent roof systems.

Wind: Among other things, the wind can knock out or burst windows and doors, rip off roof sheathing (decking) and destroy complete roof structures, capsize mechanical equipment (air-condition units) and roof fans. Wind borne debris from neighboring buildings, including concrete roof tiles and small roof mounted equipment can break windows and damage roof coverings and walls. With or without the help of windblown objects, the wind can push a door or window on the windward side of the building, move inside, increasing uplift forces  on the roof (in some cases doubling them). Although you may have a concrete roof deck and think you will not have roof damages, wind entering inside, will travel up through penetrations on the roof, get under the roof system and lift the roof.

In accordance with the Florida Building Codes, the gravel installed on the roof shall have 50% embedment into the flood coat of asphalt or the coal tar pitch, not all the gravel on the roof is loose laid. In addition to your specific building, you have parapet walls which are 41” high which is continuous and protects your entire roof system from high winds. Any movement of the loose gravel will only allow banking of the gravel on the roof at various locations and at the base of the parapet walls.

During the 2004 revision of the codes, the question of gravel roofs came up and was debated. The final ruling was that gravel roofs did not pose any danger to surrounding building resulting in the Florida Building Code commission allowing the continuation of the installation of gravel roofs.

ACRC has performed roof inspections after every hurricane since hurricane Andrew. We found that gravel roofs did not cause any damages to properties. Yes, some gravel came off the roof on building where there was no parapet walls, but did not cause any damages. Ninety percent (90%) of the damages was from poor installation of the roof system, windows broken from air borne roof mounted equipment, lumber missiles and loose roof tiles.

In conclusion, it is our opinion and experience that gravel roof system, when installed in accordance with the manufacturers specifications and in accordance with the requirements of the Florida Building Codes, will provide the best return on investment for the owners of the facility. In addition, the installation of the gravel within a 41” high parapet wall enclosure, with 50% embedment into the hot asphalt or coal tar pitch, will not pose ant treat to surrounding properties.

If you should have any questions, please do not hesitate to call me directly.

Sincerely,
Shirad Ali. BSc. Eng., RRO, RCI
Roofing, Testing & Codes Consultant.

PDFs of Roof Surveys and Proposals

​These are a few of the many emails between vendors and Roof Committee

06/22/2016

Good morning Steve,
We have reached out to John for specs and it looks like the system that is called for in the specs is a system that we don’t work with. Due to this we have decided not to bid this project with you. Thank you for reaching out to us and if you have any future projects coming up we will always be glad to look at them. I can always be reached at 954-970-8565 or by email.
Respectfully,

Adnan Velic 

​Deck Tight Roofing Services Inc.